Military Barracks

The video shows the event to mark the closure of the Military Barracks (more recently called Murphy Barracks) in 1998:

Below: April 2008, restored artillery piece on display at the recently developed and refurbished Barrack’s Square, Ballincollig.

Gun in Barrack Square

4.5 Inch Howitzer Gun details and characteristics.

Barrack Square - Conserved building

Barrack Square – Conserved building

Below: the restored Coach House situated at the front of  Ballincollig Shopping Centre on the north side of the Main Road.

Coach house

Officers’ Mess (now a Pharmacy & Medical Centre)

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Stables from Western end

Hay/Forage Building to the east of the newly positioned Main gate

Newly positioned “Main Gate” to the west of the Hay/Forage building

From the maps, it is clear that the original Main Gate was to the east side of the Hay/Forage building. It is now situated to the west of the Hay/Forage building.

Before the shopping centre and conservation

There were many people at the Open Day, Murphy Barracks 11th January 2003 before the new shopping centre, houses and office structures were commenced at the location. Some buildings and walls have been conserved and offer a historic ambience to the village.

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Stables before Conservation

Doorway of a Barrack Building before Conservation

Door (classical portico) in original Officers’ Mess building (eastern side of barrack square).

Doorway after Conservation

Open Day: Colin Rynne gives talk at the Ball Alley (now demolished)

History of the Military Barracks

The Military Barracks started as The Royal Artillery Barracks,  situated about 6 miles from Cork City and half a mile south of the River Lee. The barracks were set up in the early 19th century and the origins of the barracks can be directly linked to the development of the Gunpowder Mills which were established in 1794, in Ballincollig. The soldiers provided security for the gunpowder works and armed escorts as the gunpowder was transported on wagons along the route (including Magazine Road) to Cork City and onwards to the port of Cork, from where it was exported. Some of the gunpowder was also stored on Rocky Island.

The British Board of Ordnance bought the Gunpowder Mills in 1805. Charles Wilkes became superintendant of the Gunpowder Mills and improved access by rebuilding the Inniscarra Bridge (below).

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The barracks (see above) were built between 1806 and 1815 by the British Board of Ordnance. The main Barrack Square was laid out in 1811. The main Barrack Square comprised the four Barrack buildings with a spacious courtyard. There were three entrances into the barracks: the East Gate, the Main Gate and the West Gate. The East Gate led down the hill to the Gunpowder Mills and each entrance was guarded by a sentry.

By 1837, the barracks comprised accommodation for eight officers and over two hundred non-commissioned officers and men. At that time, the barracks were not only used for securing the gunpowder but as a rest station for troops returning from overseas and the preparation of troops going abroad. Later married quarters were added and accommodated sixty eight families.

The Officers Mess, the Officers Stables and the Carriage (Coach) Store were built between 1875 and 1922.  The Carriage Store was constructed in 1890 and is a single storey limestone building at the roadside (now in front of the shopping centre). The Officers Mess (see below) was a two storey building and the Officers Stables had a central courtyard.

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The Officers’ Mess The effective area of the mills and barracks was expanded in 1806-1815 and the 431 acres approx. were enclosed by the high limestone walls which for a long time formed an imposing boundary to the north side of the main street of Ballincollig village.

The barracks housed garrisons during the First World War and War of Independence. The British Army moved out in 1922 when the Irish State was founded. The Irish Army re-opened the barracks as Murphy Barracks in the 1940s. Murphy Barracks and its Irish soldiers remained in the town until 1998 when the soldiers were moved out and the barracks finally closed.

Developers moved in, in 2003 and the area has been completely changed. Several buildings have been recognized by Cork County Council as having significant heritage merit as per its 2003 County Development Plan. These structures are being restored and conserved under the supervision of Colin Rynne, UCC, Christopher Southgate, Conservation Architect and the Cork County Council.

Ballincollig Military Cemetery

In 1813, the British Military Cemetery was opened and it continued to function until 1922, when the British Army left the Barracks. The cemetery was situated in the Barracks, about a quarter of a mile from the main buildings. “The Barracks had its own Church of Ireland Chaplain and Church. The Chaplain kept the normal church records – baptisms and burials – but marriages were performed in the parish church, St. Peter’s Church, Carrigrohane” quoted from The Ballincollig Community School Journal

Here is a link to the Commonwealth War Graves Commission webpage for Ballincollig Military Cemetery

Here is another link to a website which has also details of Military headstones including some which are in the Ballincollig Military Cemetery. See War Graves Photographic Project

Timeline of Local Efforts with regard to Ballincollig Military Cemetery from 1995 to 2011

1995: Richard Henchion and Leslie Rice transcribed the headstones of the Ballincollig Military Cemetery.

1999: A voluntary Ballincollig community project set out to rescue what was by then, a hidden, overgrown and neglected military cemetery. Comdt Mick Hartnett, of the Muskerry History Society and Anne Donaldson of the Ballincollig Enterprise Board added substantially to research of the cemetery. Anne collected burial records from the burial registers then held at Carrigrohane in St. Peter’s Church. These registers are now in the Representative Church Body Library, Dublin.

2003: Anne Donaldson wrote a book entitled “British Military Graveyard, 1810 to 1922” published in 2003.

2005 BBC News Report on the British Military Cemetery in Ballincollig.

2010: There was an article in the Cork Independent newspaper: A Soldier’s Grave in which Anne Donaldson’s book and some of the family histories she has gathered over the years, feature.

2011: The Military Cemetery is closed and under the control of the Office of Public Works (OPW). The phone number for the OPW in Cork is 021-496 6200

2011: Burial records for this cemetery placed on the internet (see below). Also photos of the headstones and transcriptions added to this blog.


Anne Donaldson, who has had a lifelong interest in local history was alerted to the possible loss of records from The British Military Burying Ground at Ballincollig. With the support of the local community and The Heritage Council of Ireland, she researched and produced the book: British Military Graveyard, 1810-1922: Ballincollig, Co. Cork, Ireland. This was received with a surprising enthusiasm from all over the world. Anne would like to thank everyone for their interest and support. Anne later co-authored a book on the Ballincollig Royal Gunpowder Mills which co-existed with the military presence in the town.

Anne is at present evaluating the possibility of compiling a comprehensive list of all the men who served in Ballincollig and perhaps erecting an official wall plaque in Ballincollig. As it’s probably in the thousands and the records are in the UK mainly, it will depend on generous people donating information from their own records. If you wish to support this project, please email: adonaldson@iol.ie


Below is a link to the Ballincollig Military Cemetery burial records and notes which Anne Donaldson collected during her extensive research for the book on the military cemetery.

British Military Burial records

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Gate into Military Cemetery

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Military Cemetery and historic photo of a funeral procession, going to the Military Cemetery, Ballincollig

Map of Barracks

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Sandes Soldiers’ Home

There was a Sandes Soldiers’ Home associated with the Military Barracks until it was burned down in 1922. Here is a photo of it:

Entrance to Soldiers Home & East Gate of Barracks

Photo courtesy of Healy’s Bar, East Gate, Ballincollig. The entrance is probably the East Gate.

Sandes Soldiers' Home, Ballincollig

Sandes Soldiers’ Home, Ballincollig

Soldiers’ Home, Ballincollig

Photo courtesy of Con Hurley, Barber, Main St., Ballincollig.

Also see the article entitled “Elise, the Angel of Irish Soldiers”, written by Bryan MacMahon in the “Holly Bough”, Christmas 2010.

This webpage was compiled by Margaret & Randy Jordan 2006 with Military Regiment List added courtesy of Rod Mac Conaill 2007, updated 2008 & 2011 by M. Jordan

64 Responses to Military Barracks

  1. Ann-Marie Mc Carthy says:

    Hello my name is Ann-Marie Mc Carthy and I’m studying Interior Architecture in Griffith College Dublin. I’m doing my thesis on the Barracks in Ballincollig I was wondering if you might be able to pass on some information on the architect of the original building or anything that you might have on the site and why they bult the barracks there, I would really appriciate it.

    Kind regards
    Ann-Marie Mc Carthy

  2. Marian Rashleigh says:

    I have inherited my grandfather’s postcard album from 1905 to 1911. Among them are some photos made into postcards of his brother in military uniform sat with some mates outside a building,

    The postmark is Ballincollig.

    Imagine my shock as I viewed your web site and in the largest of the set of 6 photos at the start of your website is the same style of brickwork and stonework of the building, in fact, the photo could have been taken outside that very doorway!!

    Please do you know of anyone who might have military records that could help me with dates of servcie, regiment, etc.

    Marian

  3. John Munday says:

    Marian

    If it is of any help, my Grandfather was a regular with the 3rd Dragoon Guards and I have his parchment certificate of conduct issued at Ballincolig on 13 October 1905. So they were there at the time in question.

    Regards

    John Munday

  4. Frank Donaldson says:

    Does anyone have any photographs of the Ballincollig Gunpowder Mills buildings? I am doing some research on this site at the moment. I realise that due to site security that photographs at the time when the mils were operational probably do not exist.

    However perhaps there are photographs around taken after the mills finally production ceased in June 1903.

    I do not want original photographs but would be happy to scan the originals if the owner is agreeable.

    Many thanks,

    Frank Donaldson
    086-8106752

  5. Joachim Grabbe says:

    Dear Sir

    I looked for a Military Barrack as 1945 in Hamburg on the Airport. The Military Guard has Barrack, they stude a little bit outside on the border. You have a picture from this Type in your map.
    Please contact me. I look for a picture.

    with regards

    Joachim Grabbe
    Bussardweg 30
    24558 Henstedt-Ulzburg
    Germany

  6. John Yates says:

    Good Morning.

    Family history research has revealed that 2 of my ancestors were born in these barracks,to a serving soldier at that time.The timescales were abt1880 onwards.

    My ancestor was serving,I believe, as a Lancer.

    Does anyone have any information,including photographs,that they are willing to make available.

    Kind Regards.

    John Yates

  7. anne donaldson says:

    Hi marian,

    Just taking a sweep through this excellent website.

    Your picture sounds fantastic and very rare for us to have such photos. Time and politics may have destroyed / hidden many. Don’t know if Ballincollig Heritage have been on to you but if not could you scan it and email it to me. adonaldson@iol.ie If anyone else has Ballincollig photos /cards please send them to me too. I am closely involved with the local heritage of the area. Wrote a book on the british military graveyard there and co authored a book on the local Royal Gunpowder mills.

    This site has a list of regiments in Ballincollig at the time of your relative. That would help to narrow it down. Try a search in the Uk national archives online from Kew. If you have a service number then that is a real help. If you don’t have family history on him try a search on http://www.ancestry.co.uk. they alow you on for 2 weeks trial as a new member. other sites are similar. I find them good for UK.
    Dublin 1911 census is online – in case he might have been stationed there at the time.
    Some of the regimental archives have lists of names too, although most were surprised that I had a list of UK soldiers buried there.
    Good luck
    Anne Donaldson
    Anne

  8. Tony Turner says:

    My father was in the Royal Field Artillery and stationed at Ballincollig Barracks in 1914 and 1915. I don’t know his Battery or Regimental numbers but wonder if anyone can help me locate any information on RFA Units at Ballincollig in this period.
    Thanks.
    A.Turner,
    Howick,
    New Zealand.

    • anne donaldson says:

      Tony
      RFA have a regimental museum in the Uk. Try a search for same. The pro kew are a good source even online.
      Anne

  9. Christine Hunter says:

    My Great Grandfather was in the 16th Lancers and was married in 1898 to my Great Grandmother in Ballincollig. I plan to visit the area in June 2009.

    Can you tell me if any records remain. The names were
    Percy James Laker and Mary Kate Sullivan (shown as Mary Catherine)

    Thank you
    Christine Hunter

  10. mjordan says:

    Hi Christine,

    Irish Civil Records should contain a record of the marriage of your great grandparents. This would tell you where they were married etc. The Register Office in Cork is the place to go for this. This will tell you where they got married. If it was a Catholic marriage the Catholic Church will have the record or if it was Church of ireland, they will have the record.

    In general the Bristish National Archives is where you have to go for British military records. If you know the service number it helps.

    Best wishes,
    Margaret Jordan

  11. Christine Hunter says:

    Hi to John Yates,

    After I read my reply I read your mail. My Great Grandfather had two children born to him at this time. I think in between 1901 and 1903 one male and one female.

    Christine

  12. Mike Barry says:

    Hi all,
    Does anyone know if there is a record of the burials in the graveyard here?
    I think my GGG grandfather may be here, he died in 1868.
    His name was William Henry Clapp.

    • Sean Healy says:

      Hello,
      I just came across this post about WH Clapp and its a bit out of date but if you are still looking for information on him, he is actualy buried in the Cork Militery Cemetery at Assumption Hill. I did a survey of the cemetery some time ago and I have him on record as died March 18th 1869 aged 83 years, also his wife Jane who died a few years before him on 3rd July 1861 aged 53. The writing was very faint on the headstone so the dates and ages may be a bit out. If you would like any more info pleaqse contact me.
      Regards,
      Sean Healy.
      Cork City

  13. ballincollig says:

    Hi Mike,

    I have a list of headstone transcriptions (probably incomplete) but the name William Clapp is not there.

    When do you think your GGG grandfather was in Ballincollig? Do you ahve his army records? Which regient was he in?

    Best wishes,
    Margaret Jordan
    Ballincollig

  14. Sandra says:

    I have just found this website almost by accident and can’t believe my luck!
    My great great grandfather served in the Royal Artillery and appears to have been in Ballincollig around 1838/39. I think he married a local girl, they had a son in Ballincollig (army baptism record) on 1 January 1839, a daughter in Charlemont(army baptism record) in 1840. The couple are on the 1841 census in the Arsenal in Woolwich, but without their son.
    Does anyone have access to marriage records from Ballincollig at this time? How can I find out if the missing child died in Ballincollig?
    Names are: William Cline born about 1811, his wife was Ellen.
    Their son was William Owen Cline.
    Also – do you know if I could get William’s army records from the National Archives without actually going to London?
    Many thanks
    SAandra

  15. conmac says:

    closing of Murphy barracks follow this link

  16. Sheila Humphreys says:

    My ggg grandad, John Richard Sudlow Milton, was in the 10th Hussars, being promoted to a Trumpet Major as Sargeant in 1824, and this troop was at Ballincollig from August 1842 to April 1843, although John was discharged on 5 November 1842.

    • anne donaldson says:

      Hi Sheila,
      A lot later but i researched the british military graveyard at ballincollig 1823 -1920.
      I have a trumpeter major, with 10th hussars, John Milton who buried 2 daughters Amelia and Arrabella on the 16th and 23rd september 1892. The gravestone has a verse by ‘Milton’.

      Hope this helps
      Anne

  17. A. Hogarth says:

    My Grandfather was a corporal 3rd Dragoon guards. married a Cork girl, killed in Arras France 11th April 1917, no known grave.

  18. A. Hogarth says:

    Sorry, Grandfathers name was William Stanley

  19. Adam Bunting says:

    My grandfather, George Herbert Bunting was a private in the 17th Lancers. He was at Ballincollig in 1901 which shows that the 17th Lancers were there beyond the date of 1899 shown on the list.

    I know that he was at Ballincollig because his conduct sheet shows him as having been confined to barracks for 14 days for various misdemeanors (absent from reveille, insolence to an NCO, loss of kit, absent from barracks and found at North Wall railway station!)

    He was between two tours of service in South Africa (Aug 1900 – Oct 1902) and I assume that the majority of his regiment were out there throughout this time, with maybe just a remnant / r & r troops stationed at Ballincollig. He was promoted to sergeant finally in the Great War which he survived.

    Thank you for a very interesting and informative site.

    • ballincollig says:

      Hi Adam,

      Thank you for your comment above. It is always interesting to hear from people whose ancestors passed through Ballincollig in one capacity or another. The list of regiments and their times in Ballincollig which we posted are not 100% accurate as you have pointed out.

      Do you have any photos of your grandfather in his military unifom? It is nice to put a face on a name. My email address is: m.jordan246@gmail.com

      In the 1901 Census for Ballincollig, I see there is a G. H. B (only initials are used for army personnel) aged 20, a carman, Church of England religion, born in England, not married. He was in house No. 110, Ballincollig (townland), Ballincollig (D.E.D..

      Does this sound like your grandfather?

      Regards,
      Margaret Jordan
      Ballincollig blog

  20. Ron Jones says:

    http://interlink.co.uk/Jones-Gowlett/Gow-But1.htm

    My Great Grandfather Thomas Gowlett was stationed in Ballincollig on the 18-9-1881 because if i can read the army record correctly which i can email you the page if you want, my great aunt (grandfathers sister) was born Georgina Hilda Gowlett. I Think Thomas Gowlett married Fanny Christina Forsyth in limerick on 8/5/79 She was born in Corfu (odd) i have a link to her fathers web page who was Robert Forsyth born in stirling 1809. He also travlled round ireland for a few years.

    http://interlink.co.uk/Jones-Gowlett/For-Rob2.htm

    Thomas Gowlett was a farrier in the 3rd Dragoon Guards which ties up with your army list.

    Any info would be appreciated , He obviously lived in the married quarters

  21. Ron Jones says:

    i want reply if possible

  22. Denise Beddows says:

    I am researching one Private Joseph Mitchell of Bermondsey, of 16th Lancers, who left Colchester Barracks in 1901 with his Dublin born wife, Georgina (nee More)and their children, and was next stationed at these barracks in Ballincollig in 1904 when he had a son whose birth was registered there. I’m assuming therefore that the family were living in married quarters at Ballincollig. I understand the 16th Lancers went to fight in the Boer War. Anyone know how I might confirm Mitchell’s service in South Africa?

  23. Danny Winter Hall says:

    My Great Grandfather John HALL (929) of the 65th Foot was based at Ballincollig and married Ellen MURPHY there in June 1870. Your list of Regiments does not show the 65th so perhaps they were at Fermoy?
    I understand that a RC marriage at that time would have taken place in the bride’s parish (Ballincollig)and that John was from Galway and enlisted the 65th at Birr around 1859 (at age 14!).
    I am now trying to trace my MURPHY family in Ballincollig – do you know of any researcher/family history group that may be contacted?

    • ballincollig says:

      Hi Danny,

      Our list of regiments is not 100% accurate. I had a look at the civil records index online at: https://beta.familysearch.org/
      and I found a marriage index for John Hall, 1870, Cork Registration District, Volume 10, page 115. A copy or a photocopy (for €4) of the record can be ordered from the GRO in Roscommon: http://www.groireland.ie/

      Regards,
      Margaret Jordan

    • anne donaldson says:

      hi Danny,
      just browsing the site and would like to add that the marriage wasn’t always at the bride’s parish. For example, my parents although both from a country parish were married in Dublin followed by a 1 night honeymoon in a cousin’s house. If you can get to the archives in Abbey street Dublin they will have the marriage in their records and will do a photocopy of the cert.
      Good luck
      Anne

  24. David O'Sullivan says:

    Hi Margaret,

    I have traced my family back to the early 1800 in Ballincollig, but I have come across an unusual situation which I hope you
    may be able to cast some light on. My GGGFather John Sullivan lived in Ballincollig and was married to a Mary Loughlin. All their children were baptised in Ballincollig Church. Their first child in 1837. There is no record of their marriage in that church but I did fund a record of John Sullivan and Mary Loughlin being witnesses at a wedding in 1827 to a Roberts, I assume they were single at the time seeing their first child
    of 9 was 10 years later. I have searched Griffits Valuation and there is no record of any Loughlin in carrigrohane or any of the surrounding Parishes. This puzzles me as Mary Loughlin must have lived somewhere near by.
    So I was wondering, could her father have worked and lived in the mills.
    Are there any records of the people who worked and lived in the mills.
    Could they have been buried there.
    I believe their was a Chapel on the grounds. Was there also a RC church there and could they have got married in one of these. It is also possible that Mary’s family were Church of Ireland.
    Sorry If I have been a bit long winded but its a bit of a puzzler.
    If you can help me in anyway I would appreciate it.

    regards,

    David

    • Richard Stack says:

      Hello David,

      Was your GGGFather John Sullivan who lived in Ballincollig first child named Honora?

      Richard

      • David O'Sullivan says:

        Good morning Richard,
        John Sullivan and mary Loughlin had 11 children, 1st Child was Ann, then Johanna,James, Mary (
        Infant death) Ellen, Mary, Stephen, John ( infant death ) David, John and Richard. Are you researching an O’Sullivan family in the area of ballincollig, I would be interested to see if there were any connections. Do you know if any O’Sullivan in the Ballincollig area have researched their family tree.

        regards,

        David

    • Yvonne says:

      Dear David, Thanks for this info. I am researching a Mary Loughlin that married a German/Brittish soldier named Johann Liechterkost and left Gosport for South Africa during 1857 on the ship the “Covenantor”

      Could she be related t this Mary? Just perhaps? I am so eager to find her descendants that I am totally bold enough to ask you.
      Kind regards,
      Yvonne
      yvonnef@live.co.za

  25. Mike Crone says:

    Hi,
    I have been doing some research on my family tree, my grandfather
    Edward Crone was stationed at Ballincollig up to about 1920, any info about him would be great, Regard’s Mike

    • ballincollig says:

      Hi Mike,

      I take it your grandfather was in the British Army? If he was in Ballincollig in 1911 when the census was taken, his initials would be given NOT his full name. Knowing the occupation and age of your grandfather might help to identify him.
      http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

      The British National Archives would have army records. Also, FindMyPast: http://www.findmypast.co.uk/MilitaryChooseSearchType.jsp
      has military records.

      If your grandfather got married or had children in Ballincollig or Ireland in genral, they would be in the BMD Index at:
      https://www.familysearch.org/

      I hope this helps. Let me know if I can help further. It is always interesting to hear from descendants of people who have passed through Ballincollig in the past!

      Margaret Jordan (m.jordan246@gmail.com)

      • Mike Crone says:

        Thank’s Margaret for the good advise, Hope to come over to visit the area for at least a few days in the spring, my father was born there in 1915. Regard’s Mike

  26. Sean Healy says:

    Hi Mike,
    I dont know if you have this information or not but just in case, there were just three Edward Crone’s in the army at that time, they are listed below, one may be your grandfather and if he was in ballincollig he is probably the first,
    Regards,
    Sean

    Medal card of Crone, Edward W
    Corps: Royal Field Artillery
    Regiment No: 62318
    Rank: Bombardier Acting Serjeant…

    Medal card of Crone, Edward
    Corps: East Lancashire Regiment
    Regiment No: 242496
    Rank: Private

    Medal card of Crone, Edward
    Corps: Labour Corps
    Regiment No: 272787
    Rank: Private

    • Mike Crone says:

      Thank’s Sean, you are right and that will give me something to go on now I have some of his details, Regard’s Mike

  27. Jacqui O'Sullivan says:

    Hello,

    My Gt-Gt Grandfather, James Harrison, died whilst in the Royal Horse Artillery stationed at Ballincollig circa 1840-1847. Unfortunately I can find no records of him. Would any of you good people who have recorded the graves in the Military Cemetary be able to tell me whether he is there?

    Many thanks
    Jacqui

    • ballincollig says:

      Hi Jacqui,

      We have burial records courtesy of Anne Donaldson (author of Ballincollig Military Graveyard 1810 to 1922, published by Ballincollig Enterprise Board in 2003) and headstone transcriptions by Richard Henchion and Leslie Rice (1995). As yet we have not taken photos of the headstones.

      The burial record: Harrison, James 20th April 1845, 42 years, male, pensioner, Col. Cruttenden’s Cook, Late of Royal Artillery.

      Headstone: James Harrison, late of the Royal Artillery who died 20 April, 42 years. This stone was erected by his afflicted widow.

      I hope this helps.

      Regards,
      Margaret Jordan

  28. Jacqui O'Sullivan says:

    Hi Margaret,

    Thank you so much, that’s him! His widow remarried another Gunner and they moved back to Woolwich under the employ of Col.Cruttenden, and then on to serve General Henry Gordon, brother of Gordon of Khartoum.

    Thanks again,
    Kind regards
    Jacqui.

    • ballincollig says:

      Hi Jacqui,

      I am glad the information was of benefit. It is always nice to know where a family member is buried, isn’t it.

      When we get photos organized, I’ll get back to you. The cemetery is closed so I can’t just go down and take a photo for you. If I could I would. Thank you for the extra information. Do you have more information on James or his wife? If so, we would love to add it to our file. You can email me at: m.jordan246@gmail.com if you wish.

      Best wishes,
      Margaret

  29. Jacqui O'Sullivan says:

    Hi Margaret,

    A photo would be lovely, thank you. He is actually my Gt x 3 Grandfather not 2!

    After you gave me the details on the grave I was able to search in the Chelsea Pensioners records for him. He served 18 years in the RA, 5 in the East Indies, and was pensioned out in 1838 due to “Chance disease of the Lungs and Rheumatism and General Debility”. One of his good conduct testermonials was from, as he was then, Maj. Cruttenden. Cruttenden I believe became Head of Staff of Ireland in 1843, James and his wife Elizabeth obviously served in his household whilst there.

    Despite his knackered lungs he was able to sire my Gt x 2 Grandfather, John George Harrison who was born at Ballincollig in 1842, I have a copy of his baptism certificate, if you would like a copy for your records please let me know.

    Many thanks
    Jacqui

  30. Brett says:

    Hello,

    I’m trying to trace my Great-Grandfather, Percival Fitzpatrick, who we know was stationed in Ballincollig in April 1906, as that date shows on my Grandfather’s Baptism Record. His Baptism was “solemnized in the Garrison Chapel – Ballincollig”.

    My Great-Grandfather was a Trooper with the 3rd Dragoon Guards. All we know about him was that he was 31 years old in Nov. 1905 (born then in 1874), according to the marriage register of my Great-Grandparents.

    My Grandfather, even though baptised in Ballincollig, he was born in Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales…and his sister (b.1906) in Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Wales. So, either both my Grandparents went back over to Wales….or just my Great-Grandmother, while Percival stayed stationed in Ballincollig.

    Unfortunately, my Great-Grandmother left my Great-Grandfather in 1907 and came here to Canda…never to go back. Nor did she share any information about my Great-Grandfather. So we know absolutely nothing about him, other than his occupation & where he was stationed on April 5, 1906 (date on Baptism Record).

    After finding & reading your website, I thought I would post this message to see if you might have found the name Percival Fitzpatrick in your research….or where else I could look. I do appreciate your attention to this posting.

    Thank-you,
    Brett

    • ballincollig says:

      Hi Brett,

      Unfortunately, we don’t have any records for British Army soldiers who passed through Ballincollig Military Barracks. We do have burial and Headstone information. The Church of Ireland records and civil records are really all you can find here in Ireland unless the soldiers were here for the 1901 or 1911 Census or died here. The British National Archives has British Army records. http://www.findmypast.co.uk has British Military Service records. You may find your Great-Grandfather, Percival Ftzpatrick listed there. What is your grandfather’s name? If you would like to share any information with us, please email: m.jordan246@gmail.com We try to collect as much military information as we can.

      Regards,
      Margaret Jordan

  31. chris dunham says:

    The lists of units serving in the camp does not mention “A” field Battery Royal Artillery. According to documents I have regarding the Battery postings it served there from May 1858 to May 1861 when it left to go to New Zealand to fight in the Maori wars.

    • ballincollig says:

      Hi Chris,

      Thank you for your comments regarding the incomplete listing of regiments which were at the Ballincollig Military Barracks. I am always glad to have corrections or additions made to anything on my blog. May I ask if you would be interested in sharing any of your documents with me and possibly the public (on my blog)? Did one of your ancestors serve in the army in Ballincollig? I am compiling biographies of some of the men who served at Ballincollig and a friend (Anne Donaldson, author of the book on the Ballincollig British Military Graveyard) is interested in compiling a list of all men who served in the army in Ballincollig. This is all part of our efforts to preserve ballincollig’s heritage.

      I look forward to hearing from you. My email address is: m.jordan246@gmail.com

      Regards,
      Margaret Jordan

  32. Mike Foy says:

    HATT

    My GGG Grandfather, Edward HOOD served at Ballincollig in 1803, 1804, 1805, 1806, 1820, 1826 and 1827. He was born in Ballinderry, Antrim in 1789. We strongly suspect he may have married in Ballincollig/ Cork in 1806, when he deserted from the Royal Artillery. We have reason to believe his spouse’s maiden name was Maria HATT. We have the military Birth certificate of a daughter, Maria born to Edward and Maria Hood in Ballincollig on 20th May 1820. As the officiating clergy was the Revd. H. Irwin, who was the army chaplain, this baptism would have taken place in the Church of Ireland Ballincollig Barracks Chapel. I understand that, whilst the BBC was used for military births and burials, weddings would have take place at St Peter’s in Carrigrohane. I have consulted the Representative Church Body and have been told that St Peter’s records do not go back to the 1806 time!

    Could anyone help me with knowledge of Hatt families in Ballincollig/ Cork?

  33. karen smith says:

    My grandfather John Patrick Best was born in dublin barracks in 1919, his father was also John Best born in Glasgow and we believe was a serving solider at the barracks. We can find no details of a marriage, was it normal to have your pregnant wife with you at that time? lots of questions, very few answers!
    Any help would be much appreciated,
    Karen

    • Anne Donaldson says:

      Okay Karen, Better late than never.
      I am compiling lists of names of soldiers who served at Ballincollig 1810-1922. The name Best does not appear. Did you try PRO Kew online – their new search facility is excellent.
      Yes, having your wife and sometimes large families move about with you all over the world was commonplace. In later years proper married quarters were built but in the early days they all shared dormitory style accommodation irrespective of their husbands work area.
      If you have found out when he was in Ballincollig, I would appreciate it. Birth/death dates and place of birth also a great help.
      Anne Donaldson

  34. Perry Mason says:

    Hi,
    I’ve just descovered that my 4th Great Grandfather, Cpl Paul Harding (RA) was based at Ballincollig barracks from approximately 1830 until 1834. One of his Children Thomas was born there in 1831. Would you have any records of the time he was within the barracks?

    Regards

    Perry

    • ballincollig says:

      Hi Perry,

      We have very little information locally in Ballincollig. The British National Archives at Kew Gardens may be able to provide details of your 4th Great Grandfather.

      We are collecting a list of names of men who served in Ballincollig and their families. If you would like to share any further information, my email address is: m.jordan246@gmail.com and I am compiling short bios on the blog, of soldiers, where I get enough information.

      Regards,
      Margaret Jordan
      Ballincollig

  35. Katie Amos says:

    Hi, I’ve just found this website after googling Ballincollig and Royal Artillery. I’ve received today the birth certificate of the sister of an ancestor of my husband’s who was born there in August 1836. Her father was in the 4th Battalion of the Royal Horse Artillery. I’ve found his discharge papers which suggest he served in the West Indies and Malta (the last born out with the baptisms of more children there), so I wonder if he, and his wife may have been on the way back from the West Indies or on their way out, or whether he was serving there properly.
    Anyway, I’m pleased that the information seems to tie together, and thank you for your work on this site!
    Katie
    PS I am happy to supply what info I have on the family, but am still digging stuff up as you can see!

  36. Jessica O Riordan says:

    Hi, my partners family are trying to trace their family tree. We were wondering if anyone could help us, we have the name michael hayes and believe he fought in world war 1. His father was denis hayes and his brother was john hayes. Thanks in advance, Jessica.

    • Sean Healy says:

      Hi Jessica, I have records for four Michael Hayes with a Cork Connection, do you have anything else in relation to his time in the Army, ie Regiment, his number or even his age or when he may have joined up. Do you know what part of Cork they were from. If you contact me by e-mail I may be able to narrow it down.
      Regards,
      Sean Healy. e-mail; sean9@iolfree.ie

  37. What a very interesting and informative site and how inspiring it is to find people like Margaret
    Jordan, Anne Donaldson and ‘Ballincollig’ and Sean Healy who give of their timeand expertise to inform and help other people.
    I have been trying for a long time to find where my Great Great Grandfather,
    Henry Payne b.1812, St.Mary’s, Southampton, Hampshire, married his wife Dorenda Richardson,
    b.1820 in Dublin with no luck from ‘military marriages’ etc. but to-day I put in the computer,
    Ballincollig and found this wonderful website. I did this because the first two of Henry and Dorenda’s children were born there. Henry was attested to the Royal Artillery at Gloucester in
    February 1833 and served over 2l years. They had eight children in all, Henry was a saddler
    and harness maker . He left the army of his own volition in 1854 and lived in Woolwich, (in
    Kent as it was then!) which was where the Royal Artillery had its main base and barracks.and
    remained there with family until his death in 1887. Among his postings was Newfoundland.
    (somewherelse the Establishment fancied!}

    Henry served his daughter’s well. He and Dorenda had six and four of them made military
    marriages!

    The first census I found for the family was in 1851when they were in Leith, Scotland. He
    was still in the army at this time but his address was Lapicide place, North Leith (private?)
    How does one find army census ? I have never found out.

    Off now to try to find a marriage.

    Best wishes to you all

    Sylvia O’Leary nee Payne

  38. I am trying to find out some information about an ancester who served at Ballincollig in the 1830’s. His name was George Alexander Clark, he and his wife Charlotte (nee Dent) had about 3 or 4 of their 6 children here, one being my GGgrandmother Charlotte in 1833. At this time I think George was a sargent and served as the band leader.

  39. Robin Cook says:

    Hello Margaret,

    My great great grandfather served with the Cork City Artillery (subsequently The Royal Cork City Artillery in 1855) from 1855 to 1875. I believe part of that time was spent in the Artillery barracks here in Ballincollig. I was wondering if you have any info on the Cork City Artillery Regiment ?

    I have birth certs of his two daughters who were born in the City Artillery Depot/barracks in 1866 and 1868. The births were registered in districts of Blackrock and Cork No 9. Would you know if the babies were born in Ballincollig would they be registered in the city OR would my ancestor have moved to Fort Elizabeth as this was also used by the Cork City Artillery ?

    Regards,

    Robin Cook

  40. Catherine Rice says:

    I’m trying to locate information on my GGG Grandfather Edward Towel(l)
    I was at a dead end when i came across a newspaper entry in the cork examiner for sept. 1842 for an Edward Towell was enlisted in the 1st royal regiment, originally from Lismore. The names Lieut. Dagg (lieut. adjutant), Sergeant Major Hynes (transported Towell to hospital), Dr. Evanson of the military hospital were also mentioned in the article. I’m not sure if this is my GGGGF but if anyone could tell me if he was stationed in Ballincollig or any other information I would be most grateful.

    Regards,
    Catherine Towell Rice

  41. Declan Long says:

    My great grandfather, Band Sergeant William John Regan, was stationed in Ballincollig with the 3rd Dragoon Guards from 1881 to 1882. At the time my great grandmother, Emily Willis, was living on the Main St. The next thing we know is that they got married in a registry office in Manchester in 1884, They moved to India in Janueary 1885 where William died of sunstroke the following June a month before my grandmother and her twin sister were born. Emily subsequently returned to Ballincollig where she became the local midwife and where my grandmother was reared. I am trying to trace Emily’s father, Samuel Willis. I know he was a Sergeant in either the 10th or 16th Lancers and that he was a widower when he married Emily’s mother, Honora Kelleher, in Carrigrohane in 1857. I also know that Emily was born in Dublin in 1861. A final twist in that after Samuel Willis died, his widow Honora, married another soldier by the name of John Williams about whom I know absolutely nothing.

    I would be very grateful for any further information anyone might have concerning these people.

    This website is an excellent resource. Keep up the good work.

    Regards
    Declan Long

  42. Andre says:

    Hi there

    No. 7 Battery of the 9th Brigade Royal Artillery was transferred on the 17th May 1859 from Ballincollig to Dublin so they occupied the barracks for a while at this time.

    Andre

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